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King Saud University’s Qur’an Interface

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August 30, 2012 - Posted by | Muqeet's (assorted), Qur'an Interface/Qur'an Learning | , , , , , , ,

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  1. Dear Brother, assalamu alaikum. I have been 10 years studying Quran for olving islamic calendar problem. There are a lot of interesting ayath that explain Quranic Calendar System. All of the problem will be solve by this Quran. But, I have one last question about the beginning of day in daily life.

    Yasin 40 explain that “the night is not precede the day” or the day precede the night.
    If we intend fasting, before fajr/dawn we pronounce “we intend fasting tomorrow (ghadin)”. It conclude that the day does not begin from maghrib/sunset. There are only 2 posiibilies: from fajr or from sunrise. Brother, could you give explanation about this problem?

    when these time do begin:

    al yaum/the day
    Ghad/tomorrow

    Thank you

    Salam,
    Pranoto

    Comment by Pranoto | October 16, 2016 | Reply

    • Wa alaikumus salam wa rahmatullah

      man must use the Qur’anic ayaats, the hadeeth and technology wisely and try to evolve a system of accurate Islamic calendar.
      About the ayah of Surah Yaseen that the “the night cannot outpace the day”, this is, like other ayaats, the most accurate scientific astronomical fact.
      The problem is you are confused with the false statement on fasting. Nowhere in the hadeeth it is mentioned to say the du’aa of fasting that ‘I intend to fast tomorrow’. It is really absurd and stupid to say that you are tomorrow when you are actually fasting today!
      In Islamic calculation, night comes first!
      Do not get confused with the word ‘ghad’. it is not related to the point of your discussion in any way!

      Comment by MuQeet | October 16, 2016 | Reply

      • Dear Brother.

        Yaseen 40 clear state that the day procede the night. Thus, it can not be conclude that night come first. If you can prove that night come first, let me know what ayath that explain that.

        About the du’aa, in Indonesia we say that du’aa at least before dawn. We intend fasting for tomorrow, al ghad in arabic is tomorrow. And within this du’aa, al ghad begin from fajr not from maghrib/sun set. We are fasting from fajr till maghrib that is tomorrow from our du’aa.

        As far I knew that there is no ayat or hadith that explain the day cycle begins from sun set. if you know the ayath or hadith let me know.

        looking forward for your explanation.

        Comment by Pranoto | October 16, 2016 | Reply

          1. It is not “procede” but it is overtake or outpace. “it is not allowable for the sun to reach the moon, nor does the night overtake the day, but each, in an orbit, is swimming.”
            Kindly read Tafseer ibn Kathir for the meaning of this ayah.
            The ayah you have quoted is NOT ABOUT THE START OF THE DAY OR NIGHT
          2. There NO SUCH DU’AA in Islam.
            It is not intending to fast tomorrow.
            It is intending to fast today.
            When you get up before fajr it is today, not tomorrow!
          3. When you sight the crescent for the (new) moon, you start praying taraweeh, right? How can taraweeh happen in Shaban if Ramadan doesn’t begin with the sighting of the crescent?

          Comment by MuQeet | October 16, 2016 | Reply

          • Brother, thank you for your explanation so far.

            I think we must make Yaseen 40 clear.

            Yaseen 40 has 3 statements:

            wasyamsu yanbaghi laha an tudrikal qamara: and the sun does not allowable for it “an tudrika” the moon.
            wa laa al lailu saabiqun nahar: and the night does not “saabiqu” the day.
            wa kullun fii falakin yasbahuun: and each move (swimming is okay, but we do not usual say sun moon night and day are swimming) in their own orbit.

            The problem is how we can get the accurate meaning of “an tudrika” and “saabiqu”, and the we describe this phenomena by coordinate system like geocentric ecliptic coordinates system.

            Words with the same root with “tudrika” are used in 4:78,100, 6:103, 10:90. We can understand better if we understood those variation.

            Another word, “saabiqu” are used in 9:100, 23:61, 29:39, 35:32, 56:10. is this about race each other or about sequence?

            If we have an accurate meaning of an tudrika and saabiqu, then let me know how you describe these phenomena by geocentric ecliptic coordinates system.

            Comment by Pranoto | October 17, 2016

          • Brother, please seek knowledge from those who have the blend of both, the Astronomical and the Qur’anic Sciences.
            Simply by discussing on a word here or a word there, you cannot come to any conclusion. The matter is more complex than it seems to be.

            Comment by MuQeet | October 17, 2016


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